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Should common British post-nominals (KC, FREng, DL, FRS, PC…) be in the vocabulary, so Jane Doe KC keeps family Doe? #965
Found by the govuk-people local corpus (#962), fetched 2026-10-30. Names below are invented; the corpus is personal data and is not cited by name.
Today
An unlisted post-nominal ending a name is placed by position, so it becomes the family name; after a comma, the name reverses.
Jane Doe KC → given Jane, middle Doe, family KC
John Smith FRS → family FRS
Jane Doe, DL → given DL, family Jane Doe
an unlisted last word drags a listed credential into the family: Air Chief Marshal The Lord Doe KG GBE KCB DL → family KG, while … The Lord Doe KG GBE → family Doe
a listed credential in front lets an unlisted one join the run in one order only: Jane Doe CBE KC → suffix CBE KC, but Jane Doe KC CBE → family KC
qc is listed in en.toml as a plain credential (credential = {}), so Jane Doe QC reads suffix QC; kc, dl, frs, freng, pc and the others below have no entry.
Size (govuk-people, 6,021 names, 2026-10-30)
KC: 36 of the 42 names writing it read it as the family (the other 6 have a listed post-nominal beside it). Also ukec-individuals 4, ctgov-officials 26 (plus K.C. 3).
Other post-nominal-shaped words ending the family: 27 names — FREng 4, FIET 2, LLB 2, DL 2, KFSM 2, FRSA 2, and one each of KG, MMS, PC, FNucI, MoID, MChemA, ACMA, HMI, BVSc, OM, MRTPI, FRAeS, FRS. Recipe: the family's last word matches (?!Ma?c[A-Z])(?!O[A-Z][a-z])[A-Z][A-Za-z]*[A-Z][A-Za-z]* and is not KC.
After a comma the name reverses in 16 names: FREng 4, DL 4, CChem 2, and one each of MICFor, MRPharmS, MIBiol, FRMetS, MChemA, CStJ.
The hard case: KC
KC is also a Nepali surname, written bare as well as dotted. ORCID's family box holds KC for 584 people, 163 of them in Nepal; nepal-candidates writes it K.C. 342, K.C 129, Kc 21; psc-individuals has Kc 30. Measured with Lexicon.add:
as a plain suffix word (like qc): K.C. stays a name, but Ram KC and Ram Kc lose their family;
as an ambiguous suffix word (the S11/S6 count-and-case gate): John Smith KC → suffix and Ram KC → family, both right; Ram Bahadur Kc → family by case; but Ram Bahadur KC → suffix KC, and Lord Doe KC still → family KC (a title leaves no word to spare).
Bare KC does not reach #864's paired-initials exception; only the dotted K.C. does (rules/S3 records John Smith K.C. → family as an accepted cost).
To settle
A vocabulary batch: each word through tools/vocab/query.py, tools/name_usage.py and the collision criterion (decisions/vocabulary-collisions). KC, PC and DL need the most care: plausible surnames or initials.
Which listing KC takes, if any.
Whether an unlisted capitals word behind a listed credential should join the run in both orders.
Activity
Fix the second design-docs review of #965
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